Virtual Worlds: What’s Working and What’s Not
Another good article in the WSJ on Tuesday 10/23 titled “Marketers Explore New Virtual Worlds” which details the frustration that some marketers are having in working with Second Life. The writer, Emily Steel does an excellent job of clearing the air about virtual worlds for marketing. Chief among the frustrations are the high costs and uncertain returns of virtual worlds like Second Life.
But digging deeper, it may just be that marketers jumped in without a plan for measuring their success and relied on traffic measures to justify their expense. That is always a recipe for disaster in marketing using interactive marketing sites like Second Life, Facebook, MySpace, and even LinkedIn. The idea that traffic will magically turn a poorly planned campaign into a success is a faulty one at best. And that’s where some marketers go wrong in looking to use virtual worlds…
It is never enough to set up a space in a virtual world (existing or creating your own) without specific calls to action that you can measure and bring back to a business objective. Just as we counsel our clients and prospects to develop success metrics prior to a launch, we would also tell anyone looking to use interactive technology to make sure they understand just what it is they want their members to do when they visit. So here is our quick list of what’s working and what is not in virtual worlds today:
What’s working:
- Clickable offers for members visiting your area – Coupons, downloadable avatar accessories for basic information or taking a survey
- Clever updates- Think virtual billboard tactics where your images and message change on a regular basis
- Persona avatars to greet and discuss your product in the context of the site and member conversations (i.e. subtle references and recommendations, not hard sell)
- One off events built up with lots of publicity – for an idea of what I mean, look only as far as CSI using Second Life in its television shows. While a coup for Second Life, the buzz for CSI was pretty good and I’m sure it drove in some additional younger viewers who didn’t previously watch.
What’s not working:
- Build it and they will come thinking – Too many marketers fall into the Field of Dreams syndrome regarding using third party virtual worlds. Just as any interactive element used today, virtual worlds require staff or outsourced contractors to maintain the excitement, interact with users, and in general play greeter to visitors.
- Poorly executed measurement – relying only on traffic metrics such as visits and views of your virtual property. You need to move towards ratios that measure activity of consequence for your brand and business.
- The Jump Off the Bridge syndrome- Remember what your Dad used to say? “Just because all of your friends want to jump off the Brooklyn Bridge, do you?” Too much herd mentality out there in interactive marketing. Be original with clear expectations and ideas, don’t just do a virtual land grab because your competition is already there. What if it’s a money loser for them? Do you really want to follow?
There’s a lot of good things happening in Virtual World thinking and practices. Children’s sites like ClubPenguin, Webkins, and others are booming as safe havens for kids online. (Our 3 boys are members of both and interact with their classmates and cousins in these worlds.)
While this same excitement hasn’t taken hold in the business community (except for the gaming world), if done right a well thought out presence in a virtual world can yield great business results.
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This entry was posted on Thursday, October 25th, 2007 at 12:10 pm and is filed under Uncategorized. You can leave a response, or trackback from your own site.
Moderation of Social Networks? MySpace’s Approach
While reading the facinating story of Orkut’s problems in Brazil, the following tidbit struck me:
“Addressing such problems can prove expensive. News Corp’s MySpace faced similar complaints (Porn and racist images on pages next to ads) in recent years. Now company executives say, each of the eight million photos uploaded to its site each day is reviewed at least once by a human being. That program costs MySpace several million dollars a year.”
Besides the cost of that contract, what really interested me was that MySpace executives are not the laissez faire group that many people believe they are…. That is a huge commitment in terms of manpower and costs. For MySpace, maybe it’s a small drop in the bucket to make sure that advertisers are kept happy and keep paying to place ads on the site.
Is it worth it to moderate the user generated content placed on your site? Looks like MySpace believes it is. After all, if it keeps the Attorneys General away from your site, that’s a good thing. And if it costs some money to make more money, that’s good too.
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This entry was posted on Monday, October 22nd, 2007 at 9:24 pm and is filed under Uncategorized. You can leave a response, or trackback from your own site.
Disney, Microsoft, Viacom & Others Common Sense Approach to Copyright Violations
In several of our speaking engagements, we’ve heard the same question repeated:
“Following our lawyers’ interpretation of the DMCA, we don’t remove any content until the copyright holder contacts us. You say that is a weak defense against copyright lawsuits. Why?”
And our answers always come back the same:
“Do you make any money from ads or other offers on your site which are visible from the page showing the copyrighted materials uploaded by your members? If so, you may have a problem.”
And then we’d go round and round with each other, citing specific examples and whether they violate the act or not. The stance we’ve always taken is to be pro-active and remove it if you are making money from that page. We recommend that you remove it before someone asks because over time, you become a great target for a lawsuit.
Well, now many of the larger copyright holders are telling the world the same thing. On Thursday, October 18th a consortium including Disney, Microsoft, Fox, NBC Universal, CBS, and Viacom entered into a pact which sends a strong message to all of us who host sites that allow user generated content. In essence, this group is moving forward with clarifying the rules of engagement in the WWW war over copyrighted materials. Here is the statement from the Wall Street Journal’s article on the announcement that stands out:
” The copyright holders in the group have agreed not to pursue Internet companies for infringement claims if their sites adhere to certain principles. Those principles include eliminating copyright-infringing content uploaded by users to Web sites, and blocking any infringing material before it is publicly accessible.”
This group is promoting the idea that site owners have some responsibility to review what their users are uploading. The group is looking for firms to simply make their best efforts to remove the copyrighted material in a prompt manner. And from our view of the world, that make sense if you want to avoid getting tied up in court and spending a bucketload of money to defend your site…See our blog entry on the costs of getting served papers for this type of lawsuit.
But of course, we are biased. We help firms moderate their user generated content and firmly believe that the DMCA is so full of ambiguous wording that the best defense in this area is a good moderation strategy. Want to discuss this further? Post a comment or contact us.
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This entry was posted on Saturday, October 20th, 2007 at 10:30 pm and is filed under Uncategorized. You can leave a response, or trackback from your own site.
Help Wanted: Metric Reporting Analyst
Impact Interactions is a market leader in strategic consulting & moderation services for organizations using online communities and social networks to drive specific, real world, business results. We also help clients to understand and report on their web metrics as an outsourced analytics reporting service. Our clients include AARP, Cisco, Intel, and SAP among others. For all of our client engagements, we provide scheduled reports covering all interactive touch points with site visitors.
Due to our recent growth, we are looking to add the right person to our team here in Maryland. Specifically, we are looking for an individual who wants to learn our business while helping our clients to understand the way that visitors use their site. The selected candidate will have the following responsibilities:
- Prepare daily, weekly, and monthly reports for our clients in Wordand Powerpoint
- Stay current on metric trends and techniques by attending seminars,webinars, and reading white papers published by the major analytics vendors
- Interact with client teams to resolve reporting issues and topresent reports (requires some overnight travel)
- Learn about online communities, user generated content, and socialnetworks (including moderation) in order to understand their impact on business goals
- Update client ROI analysis on a quarterly basis
To be considered for this position, you should have the following qualifications:
- A degree in a mathematical or business related discipline(Statistics and Marketing preferred)
- Strong proficiency in all Microsoft Office Products
- Familiarity with Omniture, WebTrends, Site Intelligence, HitBox, or other analytic tools
- Basic understanding of PPC, SEM, Conversion techniques, and Engagement measures
- Strong writing skills
- A sense of humor!
Impact Interactions is located on beautiful Kent Island on the Chesapeake Bay across from Annapolis. Our benefits include subsidized health insurance, gym membership, a casual work environment, PTO, and a quarterly bonus plan. You can learn more about us by visiting our website. We are an equal opportunity employer.
If you’ve read all the way to here and are still interested, please send your resume and a cover letter to JOBS at Impactinteractions.com for consideration. No phone calls please. We will contact all qualified candidates to schedule an initial telephone interview.
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This entry was posted on Wednesday, September 19th, 2007 at 9:33 pm and is filed under Uncategorized. You can leave a response, or trackback from your own site.
The Watchers… Copyright Police
For those of you waiting for the Google/YouTube vs. Viacom et al case to settle out before pro-actively searching your site for copyright violations added by members, here’s a name to remember: BayTSP Inc.
While many of us who work in the online community industry have known about BayTSP, a great article in yesterday’s Wall Street Journal “YouTube Magic: Now You See It, Now You Don’t” gives a fabulous peak into the world of the copyright police. A couple of really interesting points in the article:
- BayTSP charges clients between $100,000 and $500,000 per month to help them protect their copyrighted materials
- Employees are paid minimal wages to do this ($11.00/hour or so)
- They don’t reveal their clients in their publicity or on their website
Doing a quick Google on BayTSP reveals that their clients include Viacom, Fox, Paramount, Columbia Pictures (Sony), and many other of the major entertainment companies.
While the article makes it appear that BayTSP is concentrating on the big major websites such as Google’s YouTube, the search shows that they go after both big and small web sites. After all, a violation is a violation. There are many posts in the communities for Peer-to-peer (file sharing) networks about members getting the cease and desist letters from BayTSP on behalf of their clients. Some of those who received the letters are only downloading or uploading music and movies to the networks. Seems that Limewire is a favorite target….
So what is the business upshot to all this? Simple. If you are going to allow users to upload content to your site whether its pictures, videos, or even news articles you need to be proactive in reviewing it and deleting it before a company like BayTSP finds it. Why? Because with the fees that they are charging, BayTSP and others are not a free moderation service. Multiple violations and letters will surely bring a lawsuit to your office. How much will it cost your organization if there is a lawsuit? Let’s take a shot at figuring it out:
- Cost of BayTSP service over the course of a year for a media company to find violations on your site and send letters to you: $50,000/month (only a portion of the total fees to BayTSP) for a total of $600,000
- Legal Fees: $100,000 for attorney review, paperwork costs and time, as well as filing costs
- Lost royalties: Tricky, but figure that if you have 100 clips that violate copyrights each month and on the copyright holder’s site, those clips generate $1,000 in ad revenue (PPI) per month on the media company’s site, then you have a lost royalties amount of $1,200,000.
- Your organization’s legal costs: Internal General Counsel – 100 hours of time at $125/hour or $12,500. Outside Legal Counsel – 100 hours of time at $300/hour or $30,000. (And this is just to respond to the initial lawsuit and answer the initial complaint, not perform discovery or file any counter suits.)
On a combined basis, you might be looking at an amount of $1,900,000 plus before damages for a single copyright holder (media company). Perhaps you’ll be able to settle for $1,000,000 and enter into an consent agreement to remove copyrighted materials on your own in the future. But what of the other media companies that learn of your violations? Because you know that your members are not going to only put Comedy Central clips on your site, they are also going to use copyrighted songs for their own videos, news clips from CNN and others, as well as photos and articles from major newspapers. Over time, the failure to manage and moderate these contributions gets very expensive…
Put these costs against the costs of hiring a moderation firm to pro-actively remove copyrighted material in advance of anyone reporting it to you through a cease and desist letter and it really shows the risk/reward of not being proactive is off the charts.
Good moderation can range from $60,000 for small sites to over $1,000,000 for large sites annually. When you put the costs of moderation against the possible costs of a lawsuit (and the corresponding negative publicity for your brand and your career), what would you choose?
Do you want to learn more about this topic? Contact us. With over seven years in moderating user generated content for large organizations, we are well versed in protecting your company from these types of issues while providing an excellent online experience for your site’s customers, members, and visitors. Impact Interactions can review all the user generated content placed on your site by members, whether it’s blog entries, comments, message board posts, photos, or videos.
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This entry was posted on Thursday, August 9th, 2007 at 12:11 pm and is filed under Uncategorized. You can leave a response, or trackback from your own site.
Online Community Expert Dan Bruhn Joins Impact Interactions
Dramatic growth in High Tech clients focusing upon user generated content on web sites has increased the need for experienced executives who can bring strong real world business processes to manage the submitted content. To help our clients in this sector, Dan Bruhn has joined the Impact Interactions team as our Senior Consultant for High Technology engagements. A graduate of Bradley University, Dan brings over seven years experience in online communities, marketing, technical support, and analytics to our client engagements.
Prior to joining Impact Interactions, Dan worked with Cisco Systems’ award winning Networking Professionals Community (NetPro). In his role with Impact Interactions, Dan will continue to lead all engagements within Cisco, including the ongoing moderation engagement for NetPro. Additionally, Dan will provide best practices for Impact Interactions’ business-to-business clients pursuing online community-based interactive strategies.
“Dan provides our clients with an additional level of online community expertise. He and I worked together in the early days of NetPro at Cisco and his experience in using online communities to drive measurable results is significant,” states Impact Interactions president Mike Rowland. “With the addition of Dan, Impact Interactions continues to build the strongest database of best practices in the online community world for our clients. His deep knowledge of technical support, marketing, and partner communities brings tremendous expertise to Impact Interactions which in turn will help our clients succeed.”
For additional information regarding online moderation or user generated content strategies, please contact us at ImpactInteractions.com.
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This entry was posted on Tuesday, July 31st, 2007 at 5:15 pm and is filed under Uncategorized. You can leave a response, or trackback from your own site.
Wanted: Online Community Team Associates
Impact Interactions is expanding again…
We are actively seeking people interested in online community to join us as associates, both in our online moderation group and in our online consulting group. These entry-level positions are based in our offices in Maryland. These are not virtual positions, you must be able to work in our offices.
For associates in our online moderation group, we have both full time and part time positions available for all days and shifts. The basics of the job are:
- Familiarity with online communities, MMOGs, Virtual Worlds, and other interactive web based destinations
- A college degree with an emphasis on writing skills (English, Creative Writing, Education, Marketing, or Journalism preferred)
- The ability to work as part of a larger team, while independently meeting your client’s needs for reporting, moderation, and facilitation
- Proficiency with Microsoft Word, Excel, and PowerPoint
- Basic understanding of web traffic metrics
- Ability to travel to client sites around the globe as dictated by our clients
For the associates in our online consulting group, you should possess all of the above and additionally:
- A strong understanding of web metrics including experience in using at least one of the major analytics packages (WebTrends, Omniture, Hitbox, Google-Urchin, etc.)
- A basic understanding of SEM, SEO, PPC, and PPA and how to measure results
- The ability to create blog entries for our blog to provide our view of the online community world
- At least one year in a web-oriented position
- Fluency in a foriegn language (German, Chinese, Spanish, Korean, Japanese, Russian, or Polish) is a plus
We are an equal opportunity employer. Disabled and older workers are encouraged to apply. Proof of eligibility to work in the United States is required.
To learn more about these positions or to apply, please send a current copy of your resume in Word, a cover letter, and your salary requirements to Jobs at Impactinteractions.com. Due to the anticipated volume of responses, we will only reply to those candidates who meet our needs.
Thank you for considering Impact Interactions!
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This entry was posted on Monday, July 9th, 2007 at 5:48 pm and is filed under Uncategorized. You can leave a response, or trackback from your own site.
Online Community: Just what is a copyright violation? Viacom vs. Google
In case you missed it, there is a great explanation of the two views of the world of online copyright being fought over right now by Viacom and Google. At the All Things Digital Conference held a couple of weeks ago, Viacom CEO Philippe Dauman gave his outline of what is covered and not covered under the Digital Millennium Copyright Act (DMCA) regarding copyright and how he views Google’s YouTube violations of that Act. Giving equal time, there is also an interview with Chad Hurley and Steven Chen, the founders of Google’s YouTube.
Summing it up, Viacom believes that YouTube is violating the DMCA because YouTube is a media company that has knowledge of the copyright violations. The DMCA is written to protect companies involved in the building blocks of the internet such as routing, ISPs, etc. not media companies such as Google and YouTube. Mr. Dauman also states that his company, Viacom was spending large sums of money on a team that was manually going through YouTube (and probably other sites as well) looking for Viacom content which was posted/uploaded to the site by users in violation of the copyright. Those costs in addition to the money that YouTube was making on the ads shown on the site are real money that is coming out of the revenue stream of Viacom.
Google and YouTube on the other hand argue that the DMCA applies to them and that they complied with the law because when notified by copyright holders, they removed the copyrighted materials. Eric Schmidt goes so far as to state that the dispute is about “whether there is a shared responsibility around the take down provision or not.”
The folks at Google understand and clearly state that this is about money… but they want to make the money at someone else’s expense. The DMCA is going to be tested here and hopefully through case law, clarified as to exactly what constitutes a hosted site allowed to store copyrighted materials and what is a media site. Common sense would say that if a site is making money from unlicensed copyrighted content, they should have to pay for it or remove it themselves. In our opinion, it does not make sense to allow sites and companies to earn revenue on copyrighted content for which they don’t own or license the right to show.
Your local cable access station cannot let you sign up for free air time and then show an episode of the Colbert Report you recorded at home, why should the internet be any different? As companies such as Apple and Microsoft work to bring television to the web and help define the industry, sites allowing video uploads should be held to the same standards as local cable access television stations. The principles are the same. It will be very interesting to see how the courts rule. Of course, given the money involved, there will most likely be a deal announced in the next couple of months between Viacom and Google so the law will not be examined as it should.
In terms of the uncertainty right now over the DMCA and online user generated content, we advise our clients to scan their site and remove blatant copyrighted materials uploaded as they find them. For example, message board posts that contain images from Warner Brothers or Disney cartoons are edited. Videos and photos from television shows or movies are edited or removed. When community managers make a “best effort” to remove copyrighted materials, the firm has a defense against the inevitable lawsuit. With copyright confusion, the best defense is a good offense.
Want to learn more about protecting your company and keeping your members happy? Contact us, we’d be happy to discuss the successful best practices we’ve developed in this area.
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This entry was posted on Wednesday, June 20th, 2007 at 10:24 am and is filed under Uncategorized. You can leave a response, or trackback from your own site.
Online Communities: Will Online Anonymity Survive?
There is an interesting lawsuit working it’s way through the courts right now in New Haven Connecticut that may impact everyone who runs an online community. The case and arguments are detailed in the article “U.S. Internet defamation suit tests online anonymity” from Reuters on June 16, 2007. The issues are similar to what many of us in the online community/social media business deal with every day:
- Member A attacks Member B
- Member C, D, E, F & G join in the attack on Member B
- Blogger Z and Y post entries which repeat the attacks on Member B
The question becomes, if what Member A posts is a fabrication and defamatory to Member B’s reputation can Member A be held responsible? What about the other members and the bloggers? And more important to the organization who owns the community…are they responsible and/or liable for damages?
If the court rules in favor of the plaintiffs in this case, the owners of the community may be liable for not taking action to prevent or remove the offending content. From the article, it is clear that the site is not well run nor does it follow any clearly defined rules of use or terms of service which spell out how the site will be run. That won’t protect them in this case. Here are a couple of the excerpts from the case which were posted and left on the site:
- According to court documents, a user on the site named “STANFORDtroll” began a thread in 2005 seeking to warn Yale students about one of the women in the suit, entitled “Stupid Bitch to Enter Yale Law.” Another threatened to rape and sodomize her, the documents said.
- Some posts made false claims about her academic record and urged users to warn law firms, or accused her of bribing Yale officials to gain admission and of forming a lesbian relationship with a Yale administrator, the court papers said.
It’s pathetic that a company employee did not think that a threat of rape or sodomy was inappropriate on a site for law school students.
Many people getting into the industry now would say that the First Amendment covers speech on the internet… but I would reply that there are limits and defamation of character is not covered in the case of private persons. We are still in the infancy of the case law which will be applied to user generated content. From the article:
- The two, who say they suffered substantial “psychological and economic injury,” also sued a former manager of the site because he refused to remove disparaging messages. The manager had cited free-speech protections.
What I find a little sad is that a site manager allowed comments about threatening another member to remain on the site. There needs to be a zero tolerance policy regarding threats in any online community.
This case and the company being sued represent a text book case study for how not to run an online community. Any organization that is going to offer an online community needs not only a clear terms of service/rules of use agreement but also a well trained team to moderate the user generated content. Moderators must fairly enforce the rules and be quick to act when the level of discourse sinks to the threat stage.
We’ll see how the court rules on this. It’s impact could be widespread.
Contact us to learn more about the best practices for moderation of online communities and user generated content.
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This entry was posted on Monday, June 18th, 2007 at 6:35 pm and is filed under Uncategorized. You can leave a response, or trackback from your own site.
Planning for Incivility – Why your online community needs moderators
We’ve seen an upswing in blog posts and articles related to the growing issue of incivility on the internet and in online communities. The most recent article from PC World’s John Dvorak sums it up nicely:
“Nastiness is an earmark of many bloggers, podcasters, and members of the herd; a few insane people; and those who feel that being an out-and-out mean and profane presence on the Internet is cool or funny. The level of nastiness that floats around the Net in various forms, forums, and Web sites is incredible.”
We think that this is not so incredible, but is just the way the world is right now. When you look at other media such as television what do you see? Nastiness. Whether it’s political (Bill O’Reilly, Keith Olbermann), social (Jerry Springer, The View with Rosie O’Donnell), or even legal (Judge Judy) the overwhelming tone is nasty. Why? Because it attracts people to engage with the show. And the internet is the same. Nastiness gives visitors a reason to engage.
Because of this nastiness, some folks like Tim O’Reilly have called for a Bloggers’ Code of Conduct. Okay, that would help the folks that actually blog perhaps. But what it really is, is a set of very good moderation tips for online communities as a whole.
We know from our experience that there are always going to be members who are visiting only to disrupt, argue, and complain. Most of these members only come to attack those who have differing opinions. They do it with strong language and abusive comments. They also are the first members to bring up “Freedom of Speech” and my “Constitutional Rights” as soon as a moderator steps in. When their commentaries and attacks are edited or deleted they attack the moderator and host organization rather than looking inward. Then they enlist their online friends to continue the attack on your organization. You will never please these people.
So you had better have a plan for how you deal with them. And that means having professionally trained moderators ready to deal with this situation. Moderation is a thankless job. Your moderators will never keep everyone happy. But they need to be consistent and strong willed while being able to communicate clearly to all members.
But what about the members themselves reporting violations and problem members? It is a myth that is far from reality. From our experience, here is why:
- Many members don’t like to rat each other out. It’s not their problem, it’s yours.
- One side of the fight will report the other repeatedly (and vice versa) over every comment they perceive as a slight or violation. That means that the same comment will be reported multiple times by a group while ignoring other violations because it becomes a game.
- The average site visitor doesn’t care about violations.
- Most people do not understand copyright law or the fair use provisions. (Just ask YouTube)
- Actual violations will always be under-reported versus actual violations which need to be removed.
Our experience shows that for every legitimate violation reported by members, our moderation teams edit or remove an additional four comments which violate the community’s terms of service. We believe that allowing a community to self report issues will eventually kill the community as the groups start slugging it out, providing a strong disincentive to new visitors to join. Eventually, the fighters will tire and leave your site resulting in a dead community which will not help your organization’s goals.
If you have questions about moderation, best practices in working with disruptive members, or setting up processes and guidelines for your online community, contact us. We’re happy to answer your questions.
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This entry was posted on Tuesday, April 17th, 2007 at 12:12 pm and is filed under Uncategorized. You can leave a response, or trackback from your own site.
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